Just look at all that money Australia paid to the UN for AGW. Did it stop the CO2 level from rising? No? Well what good did it do other than making fat cats get richer?
Just look at linlyons, he is saying that raising taxes can control the temperature of the earth and God can't! And he is even proud of his foolishness. You better keep all sharp object away from him.
Man Made Climate Change destroys all life. Mike
Maybe it will cause the warmers to wake up and stop denying reality. No matter how much or long they lie to the public, their big lie technique does not work. In order to be fooled into believing the world is ending due to AGW, people need to see massive changes. The changes like New York streets being underwater are the massive changes the warmers promise but never come true.
Bottomline is that unless there is a massive problem, people are not going to tax themselves to solve it. And while warmer lies may fool the gullible, enough people are going to actually have the ability to look around them and see no change that bills calling for taxation will continually fall by the waistside.
If the warmers, however, choose another strategy they can truly make a positive difference. The other strategy is to be honest about what is known and what is not known. Work with the repubs on things like nuclear power and possibly dropping subsidies for fossil fuels.
If you do this warmers, you will no longer have people saying your predictions are not coming true, because you will not be giving false predictions. You will no longer have a good half of society against you, because you will not have purposely sided with one political party. Perhaps you can even change this issue from being a political issue to a scientific issue. And all you have to do is stop lying, scare-mongering and giving children nightmares. I know it may be fun to give children nightmares, but perhaps the alternative is better.
It is a good thing. Two politicians woke up and smelled the coffee. Green energy is an economic disaster everywhere it is tried. Green initiaves ruined Portugal (held up as an example America should follow by the Obama). Australia got rid of the Greenies without ruining their economy.
It is a load of "crap". Abbott in the same breath is trying to reduce the rights of workers, has gone public saying that they will not support large manufacturing plants going under (at least two major companies in Australia have reduced their workers by over hundred staff each and the last car manufacturing company in Australia is shutting up shop ... these companies are in smaller communities with the majority of the town dependent on these companies).
The only reason Abbott is against climate change is because he is backed by big business (and the biggest businesses in Australia are mining and fossil fuels).
The job argument is a "lazy" argument in my mind. Beyond Zero (an Australian independent institute) released a paper a few years back showing how Australia could be run completely on renewable energy in 10 years. The cost of the project would have created thousands of jobs, both short and long term. Imagine if Australia manufactured a renewable energy car ... we'd be world leaders, it would employ hundreds of Australians and it would be one of the few manufactured export goods from Australia. We are still one of the few developed nations that relies so heavily on raw materials for export revenue. Imagine if Australia (not Germany) was the world leader in solar panels ... we have the spare space and sun in Australia (not to mention the teritary institutes) to be world leaders, yet government funding for the coal industry rises (now in the millions) compared to renewable funding that is only in the thousands.
Abbott's government has disbanded any government funding for institutes that don't agree with his parties status quo. The immigration department no longer publishes asylum seeker numbers, the refugee council's funding has been cut, the climate council has been legally dissolved, they have threatened senators publically not to oppose their over turning of the carbon pricing scheme ... does that sound like a democracy??
No, fighting global warming shouldn't clobber the economy, and certainly not with out cutting emissions. But the idea that realists are out to clobber the economy is a straw man argument.
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Anti-Keystone activists aren't realists.
I don't think the statement is good or bad.
I think it's a fairly accurate statement of the political climate that exists today.
The political climate is bad.
Knowing that it exists as it does is probably good.
In reality it's more of a comment about politics than about climate warming.
In essence, global warming is the victim of the politics today.
Most of the people who are against addressing global warming, understand that it's happening.
They're against it because it will raise their taxes.
A lot of them don't like the EPA.
I don't remember seeing any of them say that they'd like to have the air quality that exists in Beijing.
They just seem to think that it wouldn't happen here. Not sure why they think that.
"Because industry in America is more moral"?
Clearly that's not the case.
They just seem unable to connect the air and water quality that we have with the laws, and their enforcement, that causes that to happen.
It really is an interesting disconnect.
There is a connection between the climate that we'll pass on to our children and grandchildren, and the money that will, or will not be spent to create that climate.
I can't imagine that they don't see that.
The problem is that the taxes that they pay today is more important to them.
There are those like Sagebrush who publicly say that GOD did it, mainly because that lets them off the hook.
It is honest and it is common sense so that is a good thing. In the US we have serial liars who promise all sorts of ridiculous things and unfortunately we have a lot of really stupid people that believe them. Fortunately their lies have been exposed over time. For example, Obama promised an all of the above approach regarding energy deliberately lying to the American people and that was one of his little lies. Most people who bothered to inform themselves were aware of it yet most alarmists apparently were not. They seem to have a real problem when it comes to informing themselves about the real world instead of the fantasy world that they live in.
Have not you seen the movie we stuff this place up and move on we have done this before.
Tony dumb dumb still thinks the worlds flat
The environment vs jobs is a false premise.Canada will be left behind. the job creation growth in the renewable energy. He's trying to protect his oil industry supporters and not seeing the changes that are happening. A typical conservative who would rather protect the buggy whip industry than seeing ahead.
Harper just admitted his hypocrisy about his climate change rhetoric Now, lets see him defend to the USA that Canada is serious about climate change when defending the Keystone XL pipeline.
Harper said that no country is going to undertake actions on climate change ― “no matter what they say” ― that will “deliberately destroy jobs and growth in their country.
“We are just a little more frank about that.”
Abbott:“But we shouldn’t clobber the economy. That’s why I’ve always been against a carbon tax or emissions trading scheme ― because it harms our economy without necessarily helping the environment.”
http://ottawacitizen.com/news/national/stephen-harper-and-australias-tony-abbott-wont-let-climate-policies-kill-jobs
Abbot's a fool
