The politicians have spent BILLIONS on scientists to prove global warming. And they haven't found it. All you need to know about the science is this. While CO2 emissions have gone up and up and up at an unprecedented rate, average global temperatures have FLAT-LINED for the last 17 years.
This means that ALL the scientific models claiming a danger of global warming were and are FLATLY INCORRECT.
Real science means that if there's a difference between what the authorities say, and what the DATA say, you choose the data.
The whole idea that the globe is dangerously warming is based on COMPUTER MODELS. Got that? Not temperature measurements, not science, but politics.
The last people we should be trusting are those who have benefitted most from the biggest fraud in the history of the world.
This is not a political issue. When the warmists have stopped using fossil fuels, stopped using cars, stopped using plastics, stopped using metals, stopped using computers, and stopped killing millions of people in the third world, then and not before is the time to consider a political response.
The government must decide, we vote in the government, and the scientist advise the government.
Unfortunately it is not working like that, as the scientist are funded from government and they are basically saying whatever the politicians want them to say.
Gina McCarthy is a beaurocrat and like all beaurocrats they want power and control, they are trying to impose regulations without going through congress which if they are allowed to, it will turn out very bad for the U.S. and democracy.
Remember the EPA is an agency and is not subject to our votes.
Sagebrush must be on drugs. The people enable their 'leaders' to lead from the information they have. Like a doctor advising on diet, scientists are the best source of advice, but they cannot implement the solution- you do .
Given the fossil fuel donations to politicians, i'd suggest the politicians are the crooked ones.
Btw, we only have one planet, your freedom stops when you pee in someone else's water. Climate has no boundary and we all breathe the same air.
We are all responsible for global warming, ultimately it will be the people against the big companies.
"Today we should embrace cutting carbon emissions as a way to grow jobs and strengthen the economy. Let's approach it as an opportunity of a lifetime. Because there are too many lifetimes at stake not to embrace it this way."
Where I live, the conservative government is mostly in denial about Climate Change and are ignoring our scientists. Since elected last September they are winding back or scrapping the previous governments mitigation efforts.
To claim the scientists only say what the governments want them to say is clearly false. Anyone who thinks this, is not looking at the big picture.
It's up to everybody. We all have a role to play, including the media. The science is in, now is the time to act. If governments are unwilling, get rid of them.
Unfortunately, there are too many crooked scientists out there to trust those characters....remember the Climategate Email Scandal??? Fraudulent data, poor scientific method.....have made climate scientists.....even the honest ones....suspect.
Politicians??......no trust there either.
It should be left up to the Voters.
Dv8s sounds just like a true communist. Give up your freedoms to the ruling class over a falsified issue.
Quotes by H.L. Mencken, famous columnist: "The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed ― and hence clamorous to be led to safety ― by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary." And, "The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false face for the urge to rule it."
Politically, the greenies have only come up with taxes and tyranny to solve the issue. Scientifically they have come up with nothing. Think about that for a moment. Isn't that peculiar that these great minds only have people control as an answer. It shows any thinking person what is on their mind and it doesn't bode well for humanity as a whole.
Quote from the UN's Own "Agenda 21": "Effective execution of Agenda 21 will require a profound reorientation of all human society, unlike anything the world has ever experienced a major shift in the priorities of both governments and individuals and an unprecedented redeployment of human and financial resources. This shift will demand that a concern for the environmental consequences of every human action be integrated into individual and collective decision-making at every level."
That is the desired result of the greenies, make no mistake about it. Every utterance from them points in that direction. Just reread Dv8s' comment and you can see that is a fact.
From a scientific standpoint, you have to rationally analyse the situation. First of all, is there a real problem? Define it. Test it. Then come up with a solution, if possible. That is a real logical and reasonable way to solve a problem. You learned that in high school science and math courses. The first steps have never occurred. We here there is global warming that is causing a catastrophe. Let us examine that.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/10/30/ho...
This shows there is only a rise of 0.87 degrees in 353 years. That tracks with the first IPCC report, page 22, Section seven. Does that seem reasonable that it is a crises? I'm sure to people like Al Gore and Maurice Strong it does, since they get rich from scaring people that there is Global Warming or Climate Change. These are politicians not scientists.
But at what point can we say there is a crises? Is 1 degree in 350 years a reason to cry calamity? Is 0.75 degree that point? Any good scientist would at least define the problem that far. And as of yet no one has come forward and defined that. Also, no one has come forward to clearly define Climate Change in a legal or scientific method. Isn't it only reasonable that any sane person would expect that before giving up money and liberties?
The only thing we have gotten from the scientific community on the greenie side is corrupted data and obvious lies. Do you want to be 'reoriented' because of something like that? Don't you think we need at least the truth from these scientists? Can scientists who lie and corrupt figures be trusted enough to alter your lives in a major way?
And in recent memory, when has any politician solved a crises? In the US political decisions have destroyed the medical system. In the US political decisions have destroyed the economy and sent it to China. In the US political decisions have destroyed the educational system. And we could go on and on.
So you see this hysteria is most likely a non issue. Until it has been proven to be a dangerous issue, calm minds should prevail. Here is one assessment by a top scientist, who has been muzzled:
Quote by Will Happer, Princeton University physicist, former Director of Energy Research at the Department of Energy: “I had the privilege of being fired by Al Gore, since I refused to go along with his alarmism....I have spent a long research career studying physics that is closely related to the greenhouse effect....Fears about man-made global warming are unwarranted and are not based on good science. The earth's climate is changing now, as it always has. There is no evidence that the changes differ in any qualitative way from those of the past.”
He has great credentials and has never been caught in a lie. Why would anyone in his right mind not listen to him over the Al Gores, James Hansens, and Phil Jones of the world? Especially when it comes to something as important as our money and freedoms, which once given away can never be redeemed.
In direct answer to the question: Prove that there is a problem before anyone tries to solve it.
