you should clue in that the cycles go up and down while global warming is mostly up in the last 150 years.

EDIT: MAXXX A real skeptic would double check- your own graph from Willie Soon cherry picks arctic temperatures.

Try Again, this time with real global data.

EDIT: KANO- Decades of cold climate? Not likely. Even with a Solar minimum, the earth will still warm up, always has with 400PPM

EDIT#2: MAXX.. the wiki graph shows solar activity going DOWN while temp goes UP, at least try to provide evidence that supports your claim.

If you have 10 doctors telling you an heart operation is needed and one that says drugs are better, which one would you choose? Sorry, Willie Soon is not a reliable climate scientist.

EDIT#3, MAXX: try to be consistent. Willie Soon's graph had the sun going up, now you tell me the solar cycles are decreasing after the big cycle around 1960. There is nothing here that discredits CO2 as a greenhouse gas. All you have is correlation which is not causation. By that logic, I can show temperatures are related to the dwindling number of pirates.

Great that you are looking at oceans, maybe there is hope.

In your unlikely hypothetical, possibly.

Any relatively rapid change (and, though it may not seem like it, 1C/century is *very* rapid change) is problematic for a lot of life forms. It's also problematic for humans--our cities and other infrastructure are built with the assumption of certain coastlines, certain profitable farming districts, and so on. Any rapid temperature change, up or down, tends to be almost as bad for humanity as it is for the rest of the ecosystem (almost as bad only because humans are more adaptable than a lot of species, because of our intelligence)

But talk to me about cooling sometime when we have *not* had the warmest decade in the past century, with *every* average annual temperature above the 100-year average.

Sure sun spot cycles affect earth temps, but not so much and they are cycles so will revert. Not so clear how reliable a prediction of 'next cycle will be even lower' is going to pan out. Bit of a long shot I think.

Global warming on the other hand is a one direction trend and in the long haul will cause more problems.

Even if your prediction of lower sun intensity is correct and we experience cooler or less warming rise for a few decades, at the end of it when sun intensity returns to normal as it will we will be in serious trouble if we continue business as usual. It does not even buy us extra time as it is the later temps we really need to avoid and any masking of that will just make it harder to implement the necessary changes now, when they are relatively painless.

There is so much we do not understand yet about the effect of solar cycles on our planet, we know from NASA that our atmosphere expands and contracts depending on the cycle and that cosmic rays increase and decrease also, it is certain our climate is affected by the different cycles of the sun, we just don't exactly know how.

Yes we could be in for a few decades of cold climate.

Even if there is cooling it still proves global warming. Haven't you heard.

It'll just be another excuse that alarmists will use to explain the global warming pause...which of course does NOT exist.

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We are already past the peak of the current solar cycle (Schwabe cycle #24) and the sunspot count is very low. http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/sidc-ssn/from:1750/to

The next solar cycle is predicted to be even smaller than the current one. Will we miss global warming when it's gone?

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