Please come up with a formula that explains the forcing effect of CO2 as a GHG and how much it warms the Planet beyond natural climate variability. "Preponderances" don't work. The science has been well established on this matter. Deciphering the mathematical equation seems to be beyond an alarmist's mentality. Engineers have it figured out because that is their business and livelihood.
Your own scientific playground doesn't work. Pure scientific psycho-babble. Show me an equation that "proves" CO2 is warming by x degrees because of x amount of additional CO2 in the atmosphere. It should be a simple physics equation. It looks like you are getting there with this wiki link : "Greenhouse gases greatly affect the temperature of the Earth; without them, Earth's surface would average about 33 °C colder, which is about 59 °F below the present average of 14 °C (57 °F)". Now you can fill in the blanks of where each GHG (and non-GHG) fits into the equation.
I'd tend to think that those "national academies of science" would hand you a formula. I know they haven't, but you act as "if" they did. It seems to me that they "believe" it to be true without stating the formula.
Yes! Even proponents admit that it is.
Quote by Christine Stewart, former Canadian Environment Minister: “No matter if the science is all phoney, there are collateral environmental benefits.... climate change [provides] the greatest chance to bring about justice and equality in the world.”
Quote by Timothy Wirth, U.S./UN functionary, former elected Democrat Senator: “We’ve got to ride the global-warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing in terms of economic policy and environmental policy.”
Quote by Richard Benedik, former U.S./UN bureaucrat: "A global climate treaty must be implemented even if there is no scientific evidence to back the greenhouse effect."
Ha! Ha! Even your own buddies know it is a hoax!
Quote by Chris Folland of UK Meteorological Office: “The data don't matter. We're not basing our recommendations [for reductions in carbon dioxide emissions] upon the data. We're basing them upon the climate models.”
Ha! Ha! The data don't matter. You will keep on raping and pillaging the general population with this hoax, no mater what. You have an agenda that believes in fictions and nothing will derail your one tracked mind.
Quote by David Frame, climate modeler, Oxford University: “Rather than seeing models as describing literal truth, we ought to see them as convenient fictions which try to provide something useful.”
You go ahead and believe in fictions and the true scientists on this site will face reality.
I have a feeling Jello is, and always was, just here to troll. Luckily now he has an entire group of Sagebrush's and Zippis to brainwash to his hearts content.
Global warming is not, and never has been, a hoax. I'm sure he realizes this but, as I said, he is just here to troll.
It's not a hoax. If it were what would be the objective of such a hoax? The planet goes through these cycles repeatably. Humans of course, since we are changing the ecosystem with pollution and deforestation could tip the balance the planet keeps too far one way and make warming unrecoverable.
Jello was the only one I ever thought might be paid to be here. Once Dana overtook him in the standings he quit; while Dana's account was suspended he returned, as soon as Dana was back in the lead, Jello was gone I figure that he only got paid if he was the number one answerer. I don't think he was ever emotionally committed to what he posted.
I don't believe humans are the cause of global warming. I don't believe that the carbon dioxide we put into the atmosphere causes global warming.
Global Warming is Bullshit I don't believe in it.
CO2 has been increasing since the late 40's and 50's, it has really been escalating in there last 15yrs, however global temperatures have not followed CO2 levels, we had cooling in the 70's warming from 1980 to 2000 and and static ever since. if CO2 does have an effect on temperatures it is a very small effect that is easily overshadowed by natural causes, and nothing to worry about.
The laws of physics do not include what people beleive.
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Hey, jello's back. Still as shaky. And still has me blocked.
And still clinging to his, "it's been cooling since 1998", or whatever his date is today.
Jello, "Do you still believe global warming is real?
And if you do, do you have faith that it's getting worse?"
Now, I tend to agree with these guys:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming_controversy#Mainstream_scientific_position.2C_and_challenges_to_it
"The finding that the climate has warmed in recent decades and that human activities are already contributing adversely to global climate change has been endorsed by every national science academy that has issued a statement on climate change, including the science academies of all of the major industrialized countries."
SO, where do you stand?
Firm science?
Jello?
