The fact is NOAA accepts both UAH and RSS
I'm confused. Dr Roy Spencer's numbers are UAH. So of course they would be exact. Compare to NOAA, Gistemp, Hadcrut, and RSS.
UAH temperature measurements have always decently correlated with all of the others. Some differences in certain years exist, which is reasonable to expect (without, in and of itself, the need for conspiracy theories) because satellite-based temperature measurements are made in such a different way from simple ground-based thermometers. But even still, the long term trend among all datasets is more or less the same...although UAH does tend to be a bit lower than others, even compared RSS.
http://www.skepticalscience.com/pics/TLT...
Clearly I'm missing something, because I don't understand the point of this thread at all.
You should post a link to where Antarcticice was babling.
C is wrong to say that. And you have been corrected on that point many times. To falsify AGW, either
1. Show that carbon dioxide does not absorb infra-red. Passed the test =/= unfalsifiable.
2. Burn up all of the hydrocarbons. If we are freezing rather than cooking, AGW is falsified.
3. Find a better explanation for the warming than carbon dioxide. And, no, it is not the Sun.
http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/gistemp...
<"There is no pause... and this is what is causing the pause to occur">
I admitted that there was a pause a long time ago, although it clearly has not been for 17 years.
http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/gistemp...
Oops! Sorry! Now that the 2013 data is in, 17 years was from 1996-2013
http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/gistemp...
But, I have found a pause, just not where the denialists said I would find it. From 2002-2011.
http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/gistemp...
Alarmunists can't accurately tell you how much it has warmed due to human emissions because science can not accurately measure global average temperatures in the first place. NASA explicitly states this at their website. http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/abs_te... That's Spencer's job. Temperature measurements from satellites. He knows that global average temperatures change and are illusive when it comes to pin-pointing them.
They are attacking the message and the messenger at the same time. Simple climate science arrogance is all that it is.
The NOAA bases its seasonal predictions off Climate models
and they are based off Carl Sagans Nuclear Winter equation
and the ET equation .
And I bet they wonder why none happened or came true ?
Recently antarcticice has been babbling on that the UAH is not a real "global climate service" like the NOAA. The UAH is the University of Alabama in Huntsville which does analysis on data supplied by the NOAA from their satellites. You can read a bit of information on the UAH anylisis from the NOAA's own website.
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/temp-and-precip/msu/
antarcticice also claims that Dr. Roy Spencer (http://www.drroyspencer.com/about/) estimates "are always below the real ones which is why he releases his before the real ones"
C also jumped in and said "If you got this from Spencer it has likely been doctored". (I like C as he was the only alarmist to admit that the AGW theory is non falsifiable and his "There is no pause... and this is what is causing the pause to occur" argument highlights how utterly detached from reality alarmists are.)
Anyway... I decided to compare Spencer's estimates for lower tropospheric temperature anomalies to the ones released from UAH from June onward (UAH Version 5.6 as of Jun 2013) to see if his estimates are below the real ones.
June: Spencer +0.30, UAH +0.0.30. July: Spencer +0.17, UAH +0.17, Aug: Spencer +0.16, UAH +0.16. Sep: Spencer + 0.37, UAH +0.37. Oct: Spencer +0.30, UAH +0.30... I could go on.. They all match up EXACTLY.
It's not surprising that alarmists would lie, it's just their nature, but why are they picking on Roy Spencer?
