Thanks.
You are absolutely right. The history of temperature measuring and recording is vague, incomplete and depending on the amount of civilization in a certain area. The closest you could come about that time was an informal Western Union collecting temperatures and archiving them in Cincinnati, Ohio. This was by no means complete, as it depended upon if there was a telegraph at that location or not. Not very scientific. Philadelphia, for instance, didn't officially start recording temperatures until around 1869. Amateurs took them before that and, for the most part the records were divided into 1/3rd degrees.
Peggy cited a NOAA organization that wasn't formed until the 1950 and that pertained only to the US at first. This was not GLOBALLY! I see you specifically stated 'global'.
In order to get true global and reliable, you have to start with about 1987 when satellite measuring was finally standardize. Before that we had satellite information but it was subject to non-standard procedures. We were in a learning stage at that time, which is only natural.
So as you alluded to, NO ONE ORGANIZATION COLLATED GLOBAL TEMPERATURES IN 1881!
You've asked this same question before (many times, I think). Here is one example:
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;...
Perhaps if you paid attention to the good answers and didn't give the "best answer" to nut jobs like you did last time, you wouldn't have to ask it again.
I don't believe any single organization was collating global temperatures in 1881, but organizations have gone back later and collated the temperatures from many sources and run quality control checking on them since then. The original data was compiled by various organizations, such as the Royal Navy or US Army Signal Corps.
Data is not hard to find if you actually look. You might start with NCDC
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/surf...
EDIT: If your "point" (using the term loosely) is that there is no single global temperature, you are correct. What various organizations report as global temperature is a quantity calculated from extant observations after performing various quality control checks and using objective analysis techniques to ensure that the quantity is representative.
So what? That's the way science is done. Did you realize that no one ever measures an "average" temperature either? That doesn't mean it's not an extremely useful concept. It wouldn't surprise if you've even calculated an average sometime in your life (it would not surprise me if you hadn't, either). Are averages "myths"? By your reasoning, they are. You'd have a hard time convincing any intelligent person of that, though.
Another EDIT: I see that a couple more of the usual denier dodos have chimed in. The question is not whether temperatures were being "collated" in 1881, it is whether they were being measured in 1881, and the answer was yes they were, and they were for many years before that too.
As one of the dodos says, the set of temperature recording stations has changed--that is an unavoidable problem, but not one that can't be overcome. Also, if you look at the error bars on "global temperature" you will see that they have gone down with time, exactly for the reason that there are more stations now.
One of the other dodos thinks that we should only consider satellite temperatures, I can only assume he thinks that because he does not know the first thing about satellite measurements. Satellite measurements of temperature are a useful tool, but they are also fraught with problems--not the least of which is that they are remote, not in situ measurements. Early temperature trends produced by the UAH gang of fundamentalist Christian climate scientists were famously wrong, which had to be pointed out to them. They have corrected that problem, but who knows what others lurk in their measurements? I'll take a good old-fashioned mercury or spirit thermometer over a satellite retrieval of temperature any day.
There wasn't a body collating global temperatures in 1881. This is one of the problems.
The set of temperature recording stations has changed over the years so all trends must be considered suspect.
I'm looking for a post a few weeks ago about NOAA said the last 8 months were one of the warmest on record or something like that. I don't see it now.
Has it been deleted?
There was no single authority keeping track but most large cities were tracking and recorded the findings so in the 20th century There are ,many links here Of course it was terribly difficult to search
world temperatures "1881" It did take six seconds after all I realize how difficult this is for some people though
I even spelled world wrong ans still got info
https://www.google.com/search?q=woeld+te...
None. Historic climate data are recorded in government documents. You can find them at any large library. Until relatively recently, that was how climate scientists accessed the data.
Which body collated the Global temperatures in 1881? Where are they posted so I can look for myself?
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