> What is the average productive age of a wind driven electric generator And what is the average cost?

What is the average productive age of a wind driven electric generator And what is the average cost?

Posted at: 2015-03-12 
The average life became shortened when econazi 'animal lives are worth far more than humanity' bigots determined that windmills be deactivated because they kill some birds. The cost of the lawsuits to defend against lib**** activists filing such lawsuits just add to the misery. It doesn't matter what form of 'green and renewable' energy it is, when it's built at great expense mostly to the tax and power rate payers some other econazi group will be unhappy and file lawsuits to have it shut down. Build windmills for power and animal activists demand they be shut down. Build hydroelectric dams and animal activists sue to have them torn down. Build wave generators and conservation activists sue to have them shut down. Build solar farms and animal activists sue to have it dismantled. (Birds fly into reflected sunlight and incinerate. Solar farms destroy desert habitat, etc).

Leave it to libtar** to demand renewable energy and have it developed and constructed at great expense only to have other libtar** sue to put it out of commission because of some stupid environazi concern.

At the risk of being redundant since I provided figures I was given in my answer to your earlier question on the topic, I'll go ahead and copy and paste:

Depending on capacity, the most recent figures I am aware of set the cost per windmill at between 5 to 8 million dollars including access roads, etc. 8 million would be for a 1.5 MW turbine, if I recall correctly. The total cost for 14,000 of them would be $112B based on that capacity/cost and assuming they were all completed. I do not know how much of that is supported by subsidies or the source(s).

Also, as I recall, at the time the wind farms were being built in this area, the $5m turbines were producing $372,000 worth of electricity per year each, so their cost was amortized in about 13 years. With a minimum life span of 20 years (and potentially up to 30) they had promise, especially when you consider the infrastructure to access the location, etc. was included in the $5-8M initial cost quoted, plus new turbines coming on line had capacities as high as 3MW, and 6MW turbines were under development.

It was said that 100 turbines would generate enough electricity to power 60,000 homes. but at the prices I heard at the time the numbers didn't line up whether the turbines were producing that quantity of electricity at retail or wholesale. Nonetheless, the figures looked pretty good to a lot of people if a $500,000.00 investment could deliver $744,000,000.00 worth of electricity over a 20 year period.

Pardon me, I meant a 500M investment.

I can help a little on this one-you wrote: "NextEra Energy Services offers residential electricity service in Delaware, Maryland, New Hampshire, New Jersey, Pennsylvania and the District of Columbia. We also offer electricity service in Texas through our affiliate company, Gexa Energy." No mention of an affiliate company in California. Explain please?"

The producers can sell their electricity, usually by contract, to whomever they want in any location. Once they put the electricity on the grid it can be tapped by anyone who can and wants to plug into it wherever they are on the grid. All they are talking about in the quote is where they sell electricity, not their affiliated companies.

You Wrote: "JC, you were doing real good until you brought up the affiliate companies crap. Notice the last sentence. It mentions and affiliate company, it is not Altamont. I see a little sleight of hand here. And for a producer to sell electric power across the country is absurd. I know with the newer style feeds that line loss is a lot less than the older method but that is ridiculous for that distance. Ask any basic electrical engineer."

However, the grid is more analogous to a huge reservoir of water and a plumbing system than it is to a product transportation system like trains or trucks, where product A is transported to point B. It's like the supplier, in this case NextEra, takes a bucket of water and dumps it into the reservoir when the customer agrees to pay X dollars for it. Then the customer opens their faucet and draws off a bucket of water waaaayyy at the other end of the reservoir. It's not really the same water NextEra dumped in, they are just pouring out the water that is in the reservoir that is equivalent to what NextEra dumped in at the other end for them.

You are simply wrong. The companies have not gone broke. The company that owns the Altamont Wind Farm had revenues of over $15,Billion last year. It's a Fortune 200 company and is booming.

https://www.google.com/finance?q=NYSE:NE...

Always interesting to watch sagebrush troll, just a pity he is so bad at it

As for the wind farm in question, "Altamont Wind Farm" it is very large and owned by several companies one of which is Nextera, which owns ~50% of it.

http://www.kalev.com/how-californias-alt...

I note you want proof from Baccheus but actually offered nothing to back your own claims (as usual).

As I was interested in how well you handle the truth I also went to the Nextera site and found (in a matter on moments) under their wind-power section a map showing U.S. sites and low and behold it shows 10 sites in California, with several that would fall within the

http://www.nexteraenergyresources.com/wh...

As always who is "blowing smoke" is easy to see.

Much old turbines (from the 70's and 80's) are being replaced to help mitigate bird strike with much newer designs that also produce much more power, so it's a win all round.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altamont_Pa...

Where I work we operate two turbines of the fairly large variety in Antarctica , at Mawson station, possibly the most hostile site on the planet for a wind turbine and they have been running for over a decade, significantly reducing the amount of diesel fuel that needs to go to that station.

Last month these turbines produced an average of 74% of the stations power

http://www.antarctica.gov.au/living-and-...

If you had mentioned what capacity it would have helped.

Commercial required maintenence but can be expected to last a conservative 50 + years.

Small residential or farm use 10 ~15 years or longer depending on factors below.

Cost varies with quality of components strength, duration and climate.