I would not worry the only people that take deniers seriously are other deniers, the very reason these guys have to create fake accounts is because they have nothing real to offer except conspiracies and attacks on science.

As for all being doomed, that a new one on me and I work in a science group that studies this, primary issues are going to be sea level rise and glacial melt one caused by the other most of the effects of that will be economic, and by the time that happens, deniers bleating about the cost of doing something about climate change will be an historic joke.

Denier are pretty much empty vessels they tell us not to believe scientists, while they are happy to believe TV weather men and mad English Lords with Nazi fetishes, that sadly speaks for itself.

Climate science is certainly not perfect, but deniers hanging on every error, and there have not been that many, given the scope of what is being looked at, but denier try to weave these few errors into their every more ridiculous 'global conspiracy' which if we where to believe deniers now involves the entire science community, governments and all the aids that work in both fields who would also be part of the 'conspiracy' not to mention the media (and denier do a lot) except their own media, source like Fox, sic.

Question a denier on any of this and they start rant 'liberal' at you for the simple reason they have no real answers to any of the science points which are all based on well researched science that is now decades old, in all that time the science has advanced with better research tools and a growing data set backing it.

All deniers have is a sad collection of some 170 theories that they rotate through as each one is shown to be total fiction they just move on to the next one, does that seriously sound like people who are even slightly invested in what they are talking about.

The reality is denial has less than a decade, regardless of the nonsense and fiction they post about "no warming since 1998", the facts are 2005 and 2010 where both warmer, and allow for the record El Nino in 97/98 and in fact most of the years since have really been warmer, withing the next few year we will see more years that are warmer than 1998, how many 'skeptics' will believe deniers when they try to claim cooling since 1998 when 1998 itself has slopped to 4th or 5th or 7th warmest year in the record.

Deniers try to play up the expansion of Antarctic sea ice, they want you to focus on this one thing and ignore 3 others, Arctic sea ice is shrinking far faster that the Antarctic is growing and neither has any real effect on sea level. Far more importantly the two largest ice masses Antarctic glacial ice and Greenland's ice mass are both shrinking, but deniers pretend that isn't happening.

http://climate.nasa.gov/key_indicators/#...

The very melting of the single largest ice mass on the planet is contributing to a cooling of the sea around it and sea ice formation, try and explain that to a denier and they just go off on anther rant about communists or liberals, when in fact it is published research, and pretty much common sense.

In fact going back a few years this was even a denier theory they tried to hijack from a real scientific theory, but they exaggerated the effect and claimed it would cause an iceage.

This sadly is a recurring theme with deniers they steal a real theory and simply leave out the parts they don't like, their recurring claim of a gap between the rise temperature and the rise in CO2 is another example, in the original theory the so called gap is explained by ice age not being triggered by CO2 rise but by shifts in the Malkovich cycle that trigger warming which later adds more CO2 which itself also adds to warming, but deniers just cut out the bit that conflicted with the false point they where trying to make.

The psychology research of Dan Kahan and others might help you to calm down. It's frustrating to deal with denial. And frustration can lead to anger. But anger does not help. People are defending their political views and sense of 'self', and most of the time they do not realise their denial. I found it calming to look at some of the psychology studies and realise that most climate science deniers aren't evil, they're just acting in a way that's rational to them. Accepting climate science would be bad for them because they think they will lose the respect of those who have the same political opinions. Look at the venom directed at anyone from the GOP who says that maybe the scientists have a better idea about science than the paid-off think tanks that also said smoking is fine for your health.

The scientific evidence is overwhelming, that's why 97% of climate science research that talks about the cause of recent global warming says that it's man-made.

http://iopscience.iop.org/1748-9326/8/2/...

Since climate science denial is largely political, it will die when electric cars and solar power are so cheap that the cost to politicians of acting is smaller. If this happens quickly enough we'll be ok. If it's slowed down, or if fossil fuelled politicians can strangle green industry in red tape, then we could see suffering on an unimaginable scale. But getting angry won't change this.

And when I say denial will 'die', I mean for all relevant purposes. I imagine some of those who frequent Watts' blog now will be adamant that global warming isn't true in 40 years when the Earth is another 1 C hotter, Arctic ice is gone and we're planning the evacuation of Miami.

Relax. Emotion is the reason for promotion of the Global Warming campaign. It is used to create income, but not for you and me. The boondoggle money that went to alternative energy companies? The taxes and profits from carbon schemes, and higher energy costs? You like those things? If you do, you are in on the scam. For us normal people, we don't like those things.

We believe the thermometers. We don't believe the models, and they have been shown to be wrong. We don't agree with adjustments to the record to make it fit the models. We don't argue that temperatures are higher than they were at the end of the Little Ice Age. But why put the "Global Warming" label on it? Just to start an argument? You must really like arguments. Why not call it the "Global Warm Up"? So instead, boost the cost of energy when we least need that. You're not helping to preserve peace in the world, are you?

I know alarmists are going to hate on this but he literally called us nazis " crazy white extremist holocaust denier". I know that whatever I say no matter wether I can prove all your facts wrong you will still be an alarmist. But I will try. You listed no websites for me to look at so I will just give some basic facts. The world hasn't warmed since 1997, since 2012 the Arctic ice is 50% thicker, CO2 is a mandatory necessity to live and without it we would all die and it is at only around 150 ppm and millions of years ago it was close to 7000 ppm without cars or people and life was full and rich back then, all alarmist predictions have been wrong and the scientists have lied repeatedly and won't release there raw data, and alarmist scientists have billions to gain from global warming. I know you will not believe or not care about the facts above but they are facts, and facts are stubborn things, no getting around them.

You just said it doesn't matter if it's true or not. Others seem to think it matters whether global warming is true. For example the methane release is not happening. You have been scared into believing a lie, and if they're telling you 16 years it's a lie, yet you wail about those who tell you it's a lie, calling them denialists.

There is value to conservatism, to pointing out that actions taken to address global warming would be very expensive and the result would be unemployment as in families losing their means of support. Even in a liberal society, this is still devastating to the individuals affected and the social benefits to help them are meager provisions that still exact a high cost to the taxpayer.

However the denial is just denial, an unwillingness to accept the concept at all and resorting to contrived and ever weaker evidence and even to fabricated evidence to support their views. As per the Kübler-Ross model, the denial will eventually be replaced with anger, then with bargaining, depression and finally acceptance. It will all take time and some will never leave the denial and anger stages. The denial is normal though a bit obstructive. The problem is that delays simply make action less likely to succeed and more costly.

If you think it can be stopped by reducing CO2 nobody is preventing you from acting on your beliefs. But your too afraid of loosing an entertaining movie, some leisure time in front of the TV, a night out at a steak house, a vacation to Hawaii, a cruise ship trip, that power boat you love, or any number of non-essential things you do or use... What if all you true believers just cut the crap and started acting on your beliefs. The snowball effect would result in such a huge drop in our consumption of energy and use of fossil fuels the changes in our world would be huge and almost overnight. But keep on complaining about how nobody believes what you believe and how the government should force people to do what you think needs to be done instead of acting on your own.

I think most people, and that includes many who are called "deniers", believe that the earth has warmed since 1850. There were two "earth sciemtists" surveyed by Doran and Zimmermann (2009) who would not say that the earth had warmed, however.

If you like silly quotes from scientists look at some of these: http://www.aei-ideas.org/2014/04/18-spec...

Here is a sample:

“Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make,” Paul Ehrlich confidently declared in the April 1970 Mademoiselle. “The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years.”'

In the mean time, look at the last half a million years of Antarctic ice core data. I have decided not to start worrying until the current temperature is well above the previous four warm spells.