> Why would belief that these are the last days lead to disbelief in AGW?

Why would belief that these are the last days lead to disbelief in AGW?

Posted at: 2015-03-12 
I would have thought it was the ''Young Earth Creationists'', with their incredible ability to distort and disregard science in order to 'prove' their interpretation of the bible; I would have thought that this group would be the ones likely to distort and disregard the science supporting AGW, not necessarily those with a belief that the end times are near.

In fact, wouldn't AGW be evidence of our inability to be good custodians of the planet; God's justification for ''the end of days'' in the first place?

Clearly anyone that believes in "end-times" would ignore AGW--why should people worry about fairly long-term changes to climate when they think the world is coming to an end in the short term?

It's not just end-times believers, though, anyone that has fundamentalist religious beliefs that interfere with their ability to accept science will have problems with AGW or most modern science.

For people that deny this is the case, I was recently invited to speak to a meteorology class at a fundamentalist Christian College, and it was truly an eye-opening experience. The instructor started the class by talking about some of the previous "meteorology" he'd covered--the Great Flood of Noah! While I was giving my talk and mentioned AGW, he interrupted me and told me to "move on." After the class he told me that he was also the instructor for physics, and intended to take that class to the Creation Science Museum.

In their defense, I don't think the entire class was buying into what the instructor was preaching to them. Those that keep questioning will probably "flunk" out and go to real universities.

The study's conclusion is flawed. While they might have shown a correlation, correlation is not causation.

You should lay off the Christian angle. Christianity is about grace; and, you don't have any. You are making the real Christians look bad.

“It is of course, the global warming scam, with the (literally) trillions of dollars driving it, that has corrupted so many scientists, and has carried APS before it like a rogue wave.

It is the greatest and most successful pseudoscientific fraud I have seen in my long life as a physicist.

Anyone who has the faintest doubt that this is so should force himself to read the ClimateGate documents, which lay it bare. I don't believe that any real physicist, nay scientist, can read that stuff without revulsion. I would almost make that revulsion a definition of the word scientist.

So what has the APS, as an organization, done in the face of this challenge? It has accepted the corruption as the norm, and gone along with it.”

Quote from the late Harold Lewis, Emeritus Professor of Physics at the University of California, Santa Barbara, in his letter of resignation to Curtis G. Callan Jr, Princeton University, President of the American Physical Society.

"Simply an attempt to bash Christians for the man-made Global Warming alarmist crowd's failure to get the laws enacted that they are pushing for. "

Here in the UK they have got them passed.

The "Climate Change Act" requires the UK to shut down so much of its carbon output which can only be done by shutting down 85% of its industry.

Well done the Greens, we'll literally starve, freeze with no jobs, motor cars or electricity, all in the name of Global Warming.

Think I'm exaggerating?

"The Climate Change Act 2008 (c 27) is an Act of the Parliament of the United Kingdom. The Act makes it the duty of the Secretary of State to ensure that the net UK carbon account for all six Kyoto greenhouse gases for the year 2050 is at least 80% lower than the 1990 baseline"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_Cha...

Climate Change Act 2008



Under the Climate Change Act 2008 national emissions must be cut by at least 80% by 2050. The Acts set a framework for reaching this target in stages over the years leading up to 2050.

http://www.environmentlaw.org.uk/rte.asp...

Devout Christians are firm believers that everything that happens is God's will and God made it happen. So GW was created by God and will be ended by God with the second coming. This may be part of the Christian understanding of the Apocalypse God will be testing us til the end with different challenges

So the end of days will come about regardless of AGW

Flossie: There are plenty of countries and regions that have climate change acts, pollution controls, and so on. Here is one of the ones dealing with my area.

http://www.parl.gc.ca/About/Parliament/L...

This built on the the Canadian Clean Air Act established in the 1970s. The UK actually had the first clean air act enacted in the world after the great smog of 1952 where as much as 12,000 additional deaths occurred due to the smog and pollution.

http://www.upstate.edu/news/article.php?...

Eventually greenhouse gases and other pollutants would be included in this act (The Canadian Clean Air Act) in subsequent releases.

http://www.epa.gov/usca/agreement.html

http://www.ec.gc.ca/lcpe-cepa/default.as...

That is basically an American ideology, the rest of the world is not so gullible to believe that the world is going to end soon.

Climate change action is stifled because even after thirty years of mass media propaganda, ordinary people know that our climate is much like it always was, and none of the dire predictions have come true.

The answer is within you. With your strange ideal that climate scientist are prophets of God and God is waiting to intervene until he sees that his children are listening to His word and taking better care of the planet, you know that end-times believers would rationally believe His prophets have been given insight into what us mere mortals are unable to perceive and denial is simply a lack of faith.

Stupidity self-replicates.

"Belief in biblical end-times stifling climate change action in U.S.: study"

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/05/01/belief-in-end-times-stifling-climate-change-action-in-u-s-study/

That is crap. Since when has our government ever listened to us? They don't care what we believe. This is just another excuse to hold on to the taxpayers money. Blame has to be put somewhere.

I'll give you basically the same answer I gave Ottawa Mike and I'm sure it will be just as well accepted here.

This 'study' is just anti-Christian claptrap. Simply an attempt to bash Christians for the man-made Global Warming alarmist crowd's failure to get the laws enacted that they are pushing for. But the alarmist's have no one but themselves to blame. Their movement has been a constant stream of frauds and scandals where they have been caught red-handed time and again.

Maybe if their entire advocacy wasn't based on bald-faced lies, that most of the public has caught on to, they would be able to make some progress. The fact that none of their predictions have come true wasn't helpful for them either.

They've spent hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars and what have we got for it:

Climategate I, Climategate II, fake studies and bogus debunked hockey sticks and getting caught rigging the peer-review process, data tampering under James Hansen and on and on and on.

But they have decided to blame Christians for it. No thanks, that study isn't worth the paper it's written on.

As Calservative said: "The only thing interesting about this study is that it passed peer review, and what that says about the (scientifically bankrupt) peer review system."

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I wouldn't put the two together. One is a religious assessment, AGW is a false scientific assessment.

I don't have to review the article but it is totally normal for thee 'saviors of the earth' to claim, as our President stated, that Christians are just a bunch of ignoramuses who cling to their bibles and guns.

Well, it is true that the greenies cling to their unproven theories, higher taxes, more control of humankind and death to us infidels.

It is obvious to sane people, which side to take.

Edit Dork: Usually your answers are not worth reading. But since this was short and to the point, I did. For once I agree with you. How does it feel to be self-replicated?