> Is this a new climate tipping point?

Is this a new climate tipping point?

Posted at: 2015-03-12 
http://www.climatedepot.com/2014/04/16/earth-serially-doomed-un-issues-new-15-year-climate-tipping-point-but-un-first-issued-10-year-tipping-point-in-1989/

From your link :

" ... The Boston Globe noted on April 16, 2014: “The world now has a rough deadline for action on climate change. Nations need to take aggressive action in the next 15 years to cut carbon emissions, in order to forestall the worst effects of global warming, says the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.”

Once again, the world is being warned of an ecological or climate “tipping point” by the UN.

In 1982, the UN issued a two decade tipping point. UN official Mostafa Tolba, executive director of the UN Environment Program (UNEP), warned on May 11, 1982, the “world faces an ecological disaster as final as nuclear war within a couple of decades unless governments act now.” According to Tolba in 1982, lack of action would bring “by the turn of the century, an environmental catastrophe which will witness devastation as complete, as irreversible as any nuclear holocaust.” ... "

I think pegminer and Chem Flunky work for the Globe (or at least feed them the information).

:-)

Additionally from your link :

" ... As early as 1989, the UN was already trying to sell their “tipping point” rhetoric to the public. See: U.N. Warning of 10-Year ‘Climate Tipping Point’ Began in 1989 – Excerpt: According to July 5, 1989, article in the Miami Herald, the then-director of the New York office of the United Nations Environment Program (UNEP), Noel Brown, warned of a “10-year window of opportunity to solve” global warming. According to the 1989 article, “A senior U.N. environmental official says entire nations could be wiped off the face of the Earth by rising sea levels if the global warming trend is not reversed by the year 2000. Coastal flooding and crop failures would create an exodus of ‘eco-refugees,’ threatening political chaos.” ... "

Oh Yea! Ted Danson ("Cheers" fame -TV) had a doomsday countdown too! Hollywood won't back down when there's a crises either, when it comes to environmentalism. They don't actually blow many things up anymore. They "computer generate" it when they can.

How does the media fit into this scientifically moronic agenda? Rhetoric?

LMAO!!! Scientific Dolts maybe.

Interesting....

Usually the window of opportunity is ten years. The real disaster happens after 2050, of course, far enough out that we will only see a foreshadowing of it now- like a monster hurricane or a "superstorm." Alarmists are quick to jump on every natural disaster and say, "Unless we act now (within the next ten years), disasters like this will become commonplace. Every year will see multiple category 5 hurricanes and devistating drought/floods. The ice caps are melting the ocean is rising. Right now the rise is very, very small, but if we don't take action soon, the oceans will rise by six feet by the end of the century (thank you Al Gore).

Oh yes, those "climate-change refugees" need money, don't they?

In 1982, the UN issued a two decade tipping point. UN official Mostafa Tolba, executive director of the UN Environment Program (UNEP), warned on May 11, 1982, the “world faces an ecological disaster as final as nuclear war within a couple of decades unless governments act now.” According to Tolba in 1982, lack of action would bring “by the turn of the century, an environmental catastrophe which will witness devastation as complete, as irreversible as any nuclear holocaust.”

In view of the above the world environment faces an alarming situation and as such efforts should be made to control the situation now lest it is too late.

It is amazing how stupid some people are. You can show them that they keep making the same wrong predictions over and over and over and over again and they just get mad at you and call you a denier when clearly it is them with their heads in the sand. In my opinion, you have to have your head in the sand to be a far leftist and you have to be a far leftist to be a real alarmists. It is who they are. It is their religion.

This "tipping point" business is like the a prophet's hysterical call that the End is coming....along the Second Coming of Christ. This apocalyptic rant can be dangerous...and certainly crazy-maing. Please disregard the lunacy...and get on with life.

Oh, it also is a distraction from the real ills...like wars which never end, gov't corruption and the damn Dept. of Homeland Security and Patriot Act...and NAFTA, for crying out loud!!!

Quotes by H.L. Mencken, famous columnist: "The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed — and hence clamorous to be led to safety — by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary." And, "The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false face for the urge to rule it."

Nothing better to scare people with than with a tipping point.

This question leaves me wondering what you believe "tipping point" to mean.

Already we have reached a point where we can't prevent climate change. Only mitigate it and the effects. Too many tipping points have already been reached and surpassed. It won't be too long before the oceans have absorbed all the extra heat, but sadly they can become more acidic (increased carbolic acid due to excessive atmospheric CO2) and more deadly to marine life. So far they've already absorbed 90% of the increased warmth, but they are slowing down in terms of how much more than can absorb. Already climate-change refugees exist due to the increased sea levels.

This is really simple. The reason that the warmers have to induce near panic about the cliamte is because their taxation solutions are SO STUPID, that no rational people would ever agree to them. SO you have to make people irrational with fear. Look at the crap spewed by Marquise. Her post is written in a way to induce fear of the ocean becoming a acidic nightmare that will kill all animals. Its pure scare-mongering garbage. Garbage that she entirely believes. She is not lying or trying to fool us, she likely believes this crap she spews.

Fact is that we can fix this "problem" with smart solutions like using nuclear energy and intelligent changes to how we act. We can do this at a cost-savings. Meaning no new taxation plan.

Chem Flunky,

So I understand your point, you are saying that a tipping point does not presume catastrophic results, only difficulty in changing. IF that is the case, then tipping point is just a meaningless phrase, especially if we assume your estimate half-life of CO2 in the atmosphere.

Given your definition, is seems entirely clear that the only reason they would use the term "tipping point" os for scare-mongering purposes.

This is the game Alarmists have played for more than 30 years --- predict gloom and doom, the date arrives and it does NOT happen --- predict gloom and doom again, just further into the future and the cycle repeats endlessly.

This is the THIRD 'tipping point' the IPCC has predicted. Just like their climate models that are all wrong, when proven wrong, they just make another prediction and the lapdog Leftist media hails it as if it was something new. -- Yawn --

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Marquise Phil - You are propagandized, there are no climate refugees, that is nonsense.

If we've reached a 'tipping point' then why is the world cooling? Have we 'tipped' the climate into a COOLING phase now? http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/hadcrut...

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ChemFlunky –

>>One thing to keep in mind. <<

That is the problem. Deniers can only keep one thing in their minds – and that thing is: “My belief is reality.”

http://www.climatedepot.com/2014/04/16/earth-serially-doomed-un-issues-new-15-year-climate-tipping-point-but-un-first-issued-10-year-tipping-point-in-1989/

All those previous tipping points that came and gone were just April Fools jokes. This one must be for reals though.

One thing to keep in mind. Tipping point =/= "We are all doomed!"

A tipping point is... in essence, a state that's easier to get into than out of. Kind of like... an overgrazed field will reach a point where it won't recover even if you stop overgrazing it. The same kind of thing is happening with global warming. For example, releasing permafrost methane is a tipping point. Once it's out, we're not going to be putting it back. It doesn't mean "we are all going to cook", just "we will likely never return to our present state"