It was just a theory. Theories should never be taken seriously until at least having some semblance of reason. In reality a theory is a starting point for reasoning and thinking. The Wright Bros. had a theory and brought that theory to a successful conclusion. Same with Tesla, Kettering, Edison, Shockley and many like them. We can be thankful for their brilliant work, but that does not mean that every individual with a degree has a valid theory. 'Dr. Jones' had a theory that his snake oil could cure everything. People believed him and he got rich and the poor blokes that got taken in got nothing for their money. So every thing that is called a theory may not have any validity. In fact many theories were conceived by smoking something or another.
The oldest recorded history known to man says that God created the Earth. I am here and I am reaping the benefits of that creation. Many people have wasted their lives trying to disprove that. They have come up with zilch. They are frantic in their efforts to prove God wrong. Me, I just accept the fact and enjoy life as best I can under these wicked man made adversities called governments.
Just think about this. Governments are man made and they are horrible. The Earth was made by our creator and it is wonderful. Now which one would you put your theories behind?
It’s quite clear that you’re wanting the scientists to be wrong and as a result your judgement has become clouded and you’ve dispensed with rationality – don’t worry, lots of people do it, it’s normal.
Observing the Historical Universe
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Light from the Moon takes about a second to reach us, when you look at the Moon you’re effectively looking back in time. The Sun is further away, if you look at the Sun you’re looking back into time by about 8 minutes. The stars are even further away, look at our nearest neighbour (Proxima Centauri) and you’re seeing things as they were 4 years ago.
Our nearest galaxy is Andromeda (excluding our own satellite galaxies and local clusters), you can see this with the naked eye on a clear night, look at it and you’re going back in time by 2.5 million years. Look even deeper into the universe and you can see how it was millions and billions of years ago. What we see when we look at the stars isn’t how it is, but how it was.
Look in the right place and it’s possible to see the universe as it was shortly after the big bang (seeing being in the astronomical and cosmological sense – with telescopes not the naked eye). To claim that the Big Bang didn’t happen is literally denying that which can be physically observed.
The scientists have not, in any way, shape or form, discredited the theory of the Big Bang.
Where The Scientists May Have Erred
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Space looks the same from all sides, this means it has to have expanded at a phenomenal rate almost at the instant it was formed, something known as cosmic inflation.
This inflation would have occurred in the first undecillionth of a second after the Big Bang (the first millionth of a millionth of a millionth of a millionth of a millionth of a millionth of a second). This expansion creates waves of gravitational energy and these can be detected as ripples within the fabric of spacetime, this is known as the cosmic microwave background (CMB).
What the scientists thought they had detected was a rotational twist within the directional properties of the light from the CMB. Instead of the light travelling in perfectly straight lines they thought they’d detected a slight twisting, this would have been evidence for gravitational distortion.
The signal they thought they’d found is called B Mode Polarisation, it now appears that dust polarisation within our own galaxy (the point of observation) could have caused the observed CMB distortion.
That’s it, nothing to do with disproving the Big Bang at all. In fact, it provides even more irrefutable evidence of the Big Bang and further expands our comprehension of it.
The Evidence For Global Warming
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The evidence is there for everyone to see, those who don’t see it with their own eyes are blind to reality (or suffering from delusional psychosis). Even without actually witnessing the changes, we have billions of observational datapoints collated over decades and covering the entire planet. Furthermore, the existence of global warming is dictated by the laws of science, not just any laws but the most powerful and successful of all scientific laws, quantum mechanics.
Lied to? I don't think so. Scientific progress is a process. Some things work and some things don't. Scientists get to revise things based on available evidence. It's not like religion where if one little thing turns out wrong then the whole thing falls apart.
So, who do wise men seek? Jesus?
Those who seek Jesus seek the truth, which is that global warming is happening
http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2010...
And we are causing it
http://c1planetsavecom.wpengine.netdna-c...
The ten warmest years in the instrumental record are 2010, 2005, 2009, 2007, 2002, 1998, 2006, 2003, 2013 and 2012.
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs...
I notice that you don't have any sources for your claims.
The "Big Bang Theory" is based on Einstein's "Theory of Relativity", which has a mathematical answer of "infinity" (which means "infinite intelligence" in scientific terms and in simple logical terms). The hard part for environmental climate scientists ("climate science engineers" - they can make-up the science as they go) to grasp, is that science itself is culpable (to the results and repercussions) of their own interpretation of their own scientific research. That means they have to eventually "fess up" to their own mistakes. That's hard when they seem to adhere to their own scientific thinking (by the thousands - not millions as some may think).
Recently, "Arson Science" had to admit to their own faults in scientific reasoning and findings. Thousands have been sentenced to jail over many years because "Arson Science" was wrong in their diagnosis. Medical Science has been "totally wrong" in their diagnosis on many instances when it comes to the human body and how it works.
It's unfortunate that "Climate Science" is backed by the National Academy of Sciences just as "Medical Science" and "Arson Science" are. Then again, maybe that's a good thing for all people. It just shows that people are people no matter what trade they are involved in and being "arrogant" in their proclamations (that could be wrong) has dangerous consequences to their credibility.
"Good Science" backed by a healthy "skepticism" always suffers with "arrogant" conclusions by zealots!
Here's the link : http://news.yahoo.com/big-bang-breakthro...
" ... American astrophysicists who announced just months ago what they deemed a breakthrough in confirming how the universe was born now admit they may have got it wrong. ... "
" ... "I think in retrospect, they should have been more careful about making a big announcement," ... "
I'm not sure how this proves CO2 isn't a greenhouse gas, that we don't pump billions of tonnes of it into the atmosphere each year, and that energy can vanish?
How does it make you feel for believing such bullshit!!!!!!!!!
News that a theory has been shown to be wrong is neither alarming or unusual.
Most scientists are excited when a theory is shown to be wrong, because it gives job opportunities to develop new theories. And every scientist knows that all theories are just the best explanation we have today and not the final answer. All scientists know that there is no final answer to anything. Science is about the learning and discovery and the wonder and excitement of it all. It is the journey and not the destination that matters.
gcnp58 has it right. Thanks.
just today alarming news that scientist were once again wrong about the big bang theory and global warming. Wow, who would of thunk. as you see computer models for climate change and big bang theories once again do not work nor ever will. How does that make you feel that you have been lied to for 20 years?
who gives a damn, as long as there is breeding happening in flats, we are doing fine.
I hadn't heard anything regarding the big bang. We are always learning new things. It wasn't so long ago that black holes were laughed at by physicists. Now we are pretty sure they are far more common than we thought just recently. It is kind funny to me that there's always a sizable number of people that think we know so much and there is very little left to learn. History has shown that thought process was flawed over and over again yet it prevails.
Laduron, religions are somewhat adaptable too or they wouldn't be around but I think you might overestimate how easy it is to make a real change in science. Galileo certainly learned that the hard way and there are countless more recent examples as well (well I can't count them anyway). Galileo may have researched gravity to his eternal credit but to this day I don't think anyone has a real good understanding of what it exactly is. Is it a wave, a force, a distortion of space? Can we figure out a way to generate it?
Just to be clear, they weren't wrong about the theory of the Big Bang, instead they initially misinterpreted some data as conclusively supporting the theory of the Big Bang. A more detailed review of their data, conducted by themselves after prompting by other scientsts, arrived at the conclusion that at least one other known effect could account for their measurements besides the Big Bang. Now, I suppose that if you were opposed to science to begin with, you could interpret that as a failure of science. But a more objective interpretation suggests it demonstrates how science is, by and large, self-correcting and when mistakes are discovered they are corrected.
I think that your question really demonstrates you have no clue as to the distinction between evidence and theory or how to evaluate the accuracy of a theory using evidence. It is, to be blunt, the typical Friday afternoon climate skeptic swill, where one of you has a few brews after work, reads some drivel on the interwebs, and then wanders around thinking *deep thoughts* and spews them forth here like a high TED talk.
I guess Galileo lied about gravity because Einstein's relativity equations are better too. You have no idea how science works, yet I bet you use the technology that science provides.
We are forgetting that we've been told by the AGW cultists that the science was settled. What gives?
This has got to be one of Maxx's sock puppets. He misunderstands both theories and then spews lies about them.
Jim Z makes an amusing statement that " It wasn't so long ago that black holes were laughed at by physicists." Of course physicists were the ones that came up with idea of black holes in the first place, with "classical" black holes dating back to Laplace and the more modern variety dating to Oppenheimer.
Another EDIT: Who gives Zippi62 thumbs up or best answers? It only takes reading the first sentence of his answer to understand that he's babbling complete nonsense. Is there anyone in here that thinks it makes sense?
We are forgetting that we've been told by the AGW cultists that the science was settled. What gives?
Big Bang, macro-evolution and man-made Global Warming all have one thing in common, they are all dead wrong and unsupported by good science.
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gcnp58 is right; the oops is yours - and your oops is stupidity (no doubt combined with lying).
The scientists found and admitted their possible error. We won't hold our breath waiting for the same honesty and integrity from you.
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James --
We haven't forgotten that you are a lying, scientifically illiterate twit - but thanks for playing,
anyway.
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Zippi62 --
>>The "Big Bang Theory" is based on Einstein's "Theory of Relativity", which has a mathematical answer of "infinity" (which means "infinite intelligence" in scientific terms and in simple logical terms). <<
That was 1915. In the last 50, multiple independent lines of empirical evidence have been identified and measured. The problem with seeing earlier in time than the instant after the Big Bang is that the light it created is – literally – so bright that we cannot see through it.
Claiming that you have an informed opinion even though you are scientifically ignorant makes you a liar.
And, thanks for the link showing the honesty and integrity of scientists. You could learn something from them – if you were not so scared of what you might learn.
