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Is global warming real or is it the goverment who puts out more bullsh**?

Posted at: 2015-03-12 
Simple answer AGW is real, CO2 is a greenhouse gas [1] and we humans have increased the levels of CO2 in the atmosphere by over 40% since the industrial revolution by dumping the waste products of burning fossil fuels into the atmosphere. [2]

Only fools would try to deny that changing the composition of the atmosphere has no effect on the heat retention capacity of the atmosphere. It is like a child with crumbs all over its face denying they took the cookie from the cookie jar.

A less foolish approach to denial is trying to cause doubt, by claiming that CO2 is saturated or that the effects are beneficial, or minimal. Like the child admitting that while it is true they ate the cookie, they didn't steal it from the jar. Then you have arguments that this warming is positive by claiming CO2 is good for plants. Like the child claiming it is good that they ate the cookie, because the waste product of the cookie (excrement) is good for plants.

Most of the time the reason for the denial is outright weird, one of the more common arguments I have seen is the suggestion it is a tax grab. When you look into it, it is obviously ridiculous to claim that thousands of scientist all over the world are working together publishing falsified science papers in order to get the politicians in our nations to increase taxes on every one, including the scientists. It is like a child claiming that the crumbs on the face are a fiction of your imagination and you are trying to reduce their allowance for profit.

Then we have people who try to uses association fallacies [3] (often by misquoting and even outright fabrications) that because those people said something that sounds suspicious, that the whole scientific community is "bad"

Quotes by Sagebrush (who again quotes Nazi's to further his cause)

"Execute all those who voted for OBAMA",

"Sustainability is a codeword for communism",

"Hire the handicapped, they are fun to watch",

"Justice and equality are codewords for communism",

"God has his hand on the thermostat".

So while it is obvious what kind of person Sagebrush is, if we were to use his "logic" [3] it would make ALL deniers, genocidal, Nazi loving, justice, equality and sustainability hating, religious extremists. Although it would not be unreasonable to assume that his fans [4] are.

They may be lying but I doubt it.I read a story about Australia that got my attention.As they are surrounded on all sides by water.(The only nation that is both an island and a continent unto itself).And the waters are measurably rising and the temperature of the seas are also rising.Australia is fighting the worst heat wave in history.Wildfires are burning as cattle are dying.It's a serious problem that must be taken seriously.These rising waters,which are coming from the melting artic caps is also making islands disappear around the globe.Many are inhabited with people constantly moving to higher ground.They are running out of space to live.Loo any of these examples up and you will find yourself reading for hours.Something is making the oceans rise.And remember when the seas rise,so do all tributaries leading into them.That means the Mississippi will rise and cities like st,louis and cincinnati will flood.All coastal communities will also be at danger.I don't know if you call it global warming,climate change,but it is real.Good luck to you.

I live in Ontario Canada and the temperature this morning was a balmy minus 25 Celsius.and has gone up this afternoon to a tropical minus10 Celsius. Any chance You could send Us some Global Warming because I'm Freezing.

Top scientists have had consistent conclusions for over twenty years that the unusually rapid global climate change of the past century has been mostly human-caused. Fossil Fuel companies have often denied this science and Republican politicians in the U.S. have been adamant lately in espousing such anti-science denial. A range of anti-science con artists, pretending to be the "other side" of a scientific "debate" on whether anthropogenic climate change is a serious long term issue, are prevalent on-line. Yahoo Answers is loaded with deniers-in-training trying to copy-paste such deception. It is advisable to do your own homework on this subject. Here are some links:

U.S. National Academy of Sciences, 2010:

http://books.nap.edu/openbook.php?record...

“Climate change is occurring, is caused largely by human activities, and poses significant risks for a broad range of human and natural systems.”

“Choices made now about carbon dioxide emissions reductions will affect climate change impacts experienced not just over the next few decades but also in coming centuries and millennia…Because CO2 in the atmosphere is long lived, it can effectively lock the Earth and future generations into a range of impacts, some of which could become very severe.”

“The Academy membership is composed of approximately 2,100 members and 380 foreign associates, of whom nearly 200 have won Nobel Prizes. Members and foreign associates of the Academy are elected in recognition of their distinguished and continuing achievements in original research; election to the Academy is considered one of the highest honors that can be accorded a scientist or engineer.”

http://www.aps.org/publications/apsnews/...

http://www.aip.org/history/climate/timel...

http://www.skepticalscience.com/argument...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_cha...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merchants_o...

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/arc...

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-mckib...

http://jcmooreonline.com/2013/01/31/engi...

It is real. The current warming trend caused the end of the last ice age. Though there was a brief cold spell about 300 years ago. Prior to that cold spell it was warmer in parts of Europe than at present.

The government hype is just pure Camel Dung. A diversion to keep us from noticing that they are bilking us of billions for their phoney environmental projects.

Yes. My grandmother might be loony, but she has a good memory. She lived in the same place for 97 years and has photos and diary records to prove that the climate has changed in that time drastically. I've seen changes in my lifetime too (and notice that most people don't remember the weather of last week accurately). I've been around the world a couple times, seen cities of tens of millions of people where you couldn't see more than 800 feet due to the smog and smoke and other places where not a trace of human impact has marred the landscape.

We know that we dig up fossil fuels and we know that those fossil fuels were buried underground for millions of years. That's partially why we call them 'fossil' fuels.

We know that burning fossil fuels produces gases like CO2. Unless the basic laws of chemistry are wrong, then burning fossil fuels adds additional CO2 into our atmosphere.

We know that we pump more than 30 billion tonnes of CO2 into the atmosphere each year. We know that because we know how much fossil fuel we burn.

We know that CO2 is a greenhouse gas that prevents heat escaping into space. We know this because we've studied the properties of CO2 in the lab since the 1860s.

So, if we put it together, then adding additional CO2 to the atmosphere must warm the planet according to the laws of physics.

We've measured the temperatures at land, at sea, under the sea, and at various levels in the atmosphere. We have surface temperature measurements dating back to the mid-1800s and they show a rise in temperature over the past century or so. We also know that ocean temperatures are rising and that atmospheric temperatures are rising in the lower parts, and cooling in the upper parts. This is pretty much exactly what you'd expect, and shows that the heat is being trapped in the lower parts of the atmosphere where CO2 mixes with other gases. We see the CO2 levels rising in our atmosphere and we also see reductions in the O2 levels. That's because burning fossil fuels combines carbon in the fuel with oxygen in the atmosphere, locking it as CO2. Hence the O2 concentration in the atmosphere drops slightly. We know it's fossil fuels producing that CO2 because fossil fuels have been buried underground for millions of years. That changes the ratio of different isotopes of carbon compared to circulating carbon, and we've seen that characteristic ratio in plants (which absorb CO2) and in the atmosphere itself. Because we add more and more CO2 to the atmosphere, the oceans absorb more CO2, making them slightly more acidic. We've measured that change in acidity in some parts of the world. Warming oceans expand, raising the sea level. We've measured that by tidal gauges and by satellite systems.

So global warming is real. And we're causing it. That's what climatologists have been telling us for decades. Other scientists agree. Every organisation representing the geosciences has confirmed that they accept the data from the climatologists and their conclusions. And still other scientists agree. Every national academy of science, representing the wider scientific community, also endorses the view of the climatologists.

I think it'd be an incredibly stupid thing for us to have a scientific community, to train and educate them, to allow them to conduct research, and then turn around and say 'I don't believe them'. Most people can't even do the maths necessary to become a scientist. Most people can't explain how a barometer works or derive the equations to explain why the pressure of a gas depends on its temperature. So why should we listen to armchair climatologists and members of the general public with no training and no experimental experience rather than the actual scientific community?

It is very real and there are already aspects of AGW effecting different parts of the world. You would have to be a conspiracy nut job to think it is government BS The 17 warmest years globally have all been within the last 18 years out of 134 years of record keeping BUT the moronic deniers still insist that there has been no warming for that time period. How f*cking stupid can you get to think that

Do you believe in the observations being made in the trend of declining Arctic sea ice? What about the observations of nearly all of this planet's glaciers trending towards a state of decline. What about the migration of species to areas that were formerly too cold to support their existence there. ... Do not just look out your window and claim it to be the world. See what is happening around the world.

It's a big con-game.

First, please understand that the REAL debate is about "man-made" Global Warming --- not global warming. It's true there has been a little natural warming over the last several decades but it was NOT caused by human activity.

Man-made Global Warming advocates have no empirical science to back their claim. And their advocacy movement has been mired in scandal since its beginning. Here are some things you should know:

1) The Earth has been both much warmer and much colder in the distant past, long before the industrial age. Climate is indeed changing, but it has always changed and probably always will. These are obviously natural cycles that man does not and cannot control.

2) Global Warming alarmists have been caught in one lie after another. Huge scandals have been continuously revealed since the early 1980’s when the campaign began. Some of these are listed below:

3) Al Gore’s movie "An Inconvenient Truth" was full of bald faced lies. Like the Polar Bears were drowning, or the Ice Caps were melting, or the oceans were rising --- all lies. In fact a court of England ruled the movie was so flawed that it could not be shown to school children without a disclaimer.

4) The ClimateGate affair exposed the utter corruption of the Warmist community with their exposed emails speaking of how they intended to “hide the decline” and how to manipulate data and the peer-review process in their favor.

5) Then there is the fact that the globe isn’t even warming anymore and the small amount of warming experienced from the 1900’s to 2013 timeframe was negligible and well within the envelope of normal.

6) During this same period of marginal warming, scientists also noticed that other planets in our solar system were warming. What do these planets have in common ? --- the Sun.

7) Phil Jones, head of the Climatic Research Unit, the Guru and High Priest of Global Warming himself admitted there has been no statistically significant warming. If anyone on the planet would have been aware of statistically significant warming it would have been Phil Jones and he admitted there has been none. (Game Over)

8) Warmists like Al Gore refuse to engage in any formal debate on the issue. That’s because on the few occasions Warmist have debated openly, they lose, and they lose big. Lord Monckton utterly destroys them time and time again.

9) Al Gore and other Warmists have stated clearly that they want to make CO2 the object of a global tax. CO2 is the perfect object for their revenue purposes because you literally cannot live without making CO2, after all, we exhale it. And good science has revealed that no correlation exist to show CO2 drives warming. Demonizing CO2 is all about the tax dollars, and that’s all its about.

See the scam for what it is and don’t believe any of it.

Polar Bears are doing fine:

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/190805/2...

Phil Jones admits NO statistically significant warming

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/02/1...

35 major errors in Al Gore’s movie

http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/monckt...

Court rules Al Gore’s movie unfit without disclaimer (11 major errors reviewed)

http://creation.com/al-gores-inconvenien...

Graphs showing that CO2 does NOT drive Temperature

http://icecap.us/index.php/go/joes-blog/...

Warming on Mars -- and Jupiter, Pluto, Neptune

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?ne...

Lord Monckton destroys Warmist in debate (Video)

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andre...

For the full story on the man-made Global Warming scam watch these:

The Great Global Warming Swindle



Do you guys belive in global warming? if yes, why? if no, why not? I don't belive in everything the goverment tells us but this subjekt is just so big that i don't really know what to belive, so can you help me?

Yes. Forget the government and get a university physics degree. The scientists are right.

If you had 9 out of 10 doctors telling you ygat you needed an operation, would you think conspiracy?

It is possible there is a tiny amount of warming that we can put down to man, but that would be beneficial, but most of it is political, trying get more control of our lives, I mean nobody believes carbon tax or cap and trade policies are going tp make the slightest difference to our climate.

If the U.S.A stopped all CO2 emissions right now, CO2 levels in our atmosphere to still continue to climb because the rest of the world especially the undeveloped countries are not going to stop for anyone, Russia doesn't believe in Global warming, China and India are building coal fired power stations as fast as they can.

The only thing you can believe the government says is when it says, "We will raise your taxes."

The rest is all BS (Bad Science for the Y!A censors.)

AGW is at the top of that BS list. It is the greatest scam ever perpetuated upon the world to date.

Joseph Goebbels,

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

So in scientific detail it is as easy as this. Al Gore in his movie said that when CO2 goes up it drives the temperature up. This is the main tenet of the Warmists. He graphically displayed that to millions of his audience and this was accepted as fact. Taxes were collected on this basis and laws were enacted on this basis. Even 'Carbon Credits' were concocted based on this premise.

Now, in reality, what is the truth? Let us look at Mother Earth, the ultimate teller of truth. The CO2 level has gone up for the last ten years, a fact no one disagrees with. But at this same time the Earth's temperature has declined. This is data taken from databases of advocates of AGW.

http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/hadcrut...

So this simple fact conclusively shows that AGW is a farce. And no one can legitimately deny it.

To further this subject the greenies admit it is all fiction.

Quote by Chris Folland of UK Meteorological Office: “The data don't matter. We're not basing our recommendations [for reductions in carbon dioxide emissions] upon the data. We're basing them upon the climate models.”

Quote by David Frame, climate modeler, Oxford University: “Rather than seeing models as describing literal truth, we ought to see them as convenient fictions which try to provide something useful.”

The gov loves to bullshit you. The affordable care act. its the unaffordable snare act. War on drugs? more like war on people who have no instigated force against ANYONE else. War on terror? More like blow up the middle east for the military industrial complex. The government loves to lie, however yea global warming is a serious thing and you should look up some studies regarding it.

It's a blatant and obvious bullshit