> Is climate change a myth or not?

Is climate change a myth or not?

Posted at: 2015-03-12 
Myth why?

not a myth why?

There's truth and also myths:

Myths:

- Nuclear power is an answer http://www.nirs.org/factsheets/kyotonuc....

to global warming. http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/uah

Nope. There is still the unsolved problem of what to do with nuclear waste. http://www.nirs.org/southeast/sehome.htm

- Global governance is an answer to global warming. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agenda_21

Nope. Ultimately, that means governance by the UN. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_...

- If it keeps warming, the Thermohaline Current will suddenly shut down, and Europe will lead us rapidly into an ice age.

Nope. The Thermohaline Current has already been affected by the warming, and it slowed down, acting as a negative feedback mechanism, rather than shut down plunging us into an ice age. http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.10...

- CO2 is a pollutant.

Nope. CO2 is a fertilizer. http://www.ibiblio.org/london/agricultur...

- A doubling of CO2 will cause global temperatures to rise 3 kelvins.

Nope. If it rises at all, the effect CO2 would have would be much less than that. [1]

- If we don't stop producing so much CO2, droughts will cause famine.

Nope. CO2 makes plants resistant to drought. http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.10...

- Global Warming is the most dangerous form of Climate Change we face today.

Nope. The most dangerous form of climate change we are experiencing is the increases in background radiation, which has nothing to do with global warming. http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/07/radia...

- Ocean Acidification caused by global warming kills coral long term.

Nope. Coral love it. http://debunkhouse.wordpress.com/2009/12...

- Global Warming causes extreme weather.

Nope. Extreme weather happened before. [4] There is no evidence that it is getting worse. On the contrary, things have been relatively quiet lately.

Truths:

- It has warmed. [2]

See for yourself: [3]

Edit @amawirep: "Islands that seem to be sinking due to the rising of ocean levels"

- Partial: Sea level is rising, but at an unexciting, easily managed rate of 1 foot per century. [5]

"glaciers melting around the world, the north polar ice cap melting earlier and to a greater extent"

- Partial: It seems that more glaciers have been receding than expanding since the end of the little ice age, but not to a greater extent than predicted by James Hansen, the head of GISS. His melt rate would have caused a sea level rise of 6 meters by 2028. [6]

"tornadoes happening earlier and more frequently"

- Myth: The number of tornadoes, especially strong ones have decreased in frequency over the last decades. [7]

Climate change is very real. Human acceleration of this change? This may be the part that is a myth. Do yourself a favor and read some books on the subject. While you're already on the Web, read extremist point of views from the far left as well as the far right, these are mostly opinion based and will give you no clear answer but it will inform you as to what others (including those "in charge") think is going on. There are also many documentaries at your disposal on Netflix as well as YouTube, just search" climate change" or "global warming" on either of the two. In any case, it is a smart idea to begin to implement "greener" practices into your life. Walk, bike, or carpool to work or school, recycle (although some say this is also a gimmick since we could have all biodegradable packaging which would require no recycling), be conscious of your energy and water consumption and get outside to breathe some fresh air and feed the plants with your own personal CO2 :)

"Climate Change" is and always has been a natural occurrence. There are too many variables that affect the climate:

1) Elevation - higher elevations mean colder climates

2) Prevailing winds - 3 prevailing winds in northern and southern hemisphere that affect climate

3) Latitude - a location of an area defines its climate

4) Angle - tilting of the earth at certain times of the year affects climate

5) Surface - the type of surface can hold more heat

6) Topography - the lay of the land like mountains effect the climate in certain areas

7) Time frame - decades of weather and averaging

8) Orbital variations - circulation patterns of the earth change. It also wobbles and affects the climate

9) Solar activity - The sun's radiational output increases and decreases

10) Ocean currents - The Gulf stream affects the climate of Great Britain for example

11) Cloud formation - clouds cool the earth's surface and affect the climate

12) PDO, AMO, AO - Air currents (jet streams) affect the climate

13) Cosmic Rays - Gamma rays released from exploding stars affect the climate

14) Seismic Activity - causes land to rise and fall and affects climate

..... and much more

"Climate Change" as it pertains to climate science's definition is a way to define what humans are doing to the climate which is very little. CO2 (the main concern) has but a fractional affect on the climate mainly due to the many other factors that drive the climate.

"Alarming Climate Change" is a myth.

Do humans have an affect on the climate? Yes, but very little. Size does matter when it comes to what affects the climate and humans are a very small part of it.

The earth is constantly changing climate, Since it first formed it has been doing so.

Man has some impact on the climate, but its not via greenhouse gases.

Man has made too many dams and dug too many wells, we have pushed the world into Anthropocene.

This is why its flooding more, and why wet places become wetter and dry places become drier, all the time global climate is also naturally changing as well.

You can survive climate change BUT You cannot survive Anthropocene.

4 BILLION people are currently affected, this is increasing EVERY month by millions. Which gives about 18 years at a rough estimate before you will find it difficult to get drinkable water.

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Climate change is science. To deny the empirical evidence - and the studies, laws, and theories that identify, describe and explain the observations - is to deny physical reality.

The Denier claim that our observations are the result of "natural" phenomena is a deliberate lie. It is a tactic invented by Creationists that redefines "natural" to include things that have never been observed in nature and that have no scientific explanation - because they do not exist in nature and are unscientific.

Reality vs. Mythology:

Climate scientists have identified numerous natural climate cycles (such as, Milankovitch cycles) that recur at regular, mathematically determined intervals and whose existence can be explained scientifically (for example, by geophysical properties such as variability in the earth's axis and orbit).

Deniers claim that there are other "climate cycles" - however, Deniers have no scientific evidence; they do not know what the cycles are; they do not know when these cycles occur (recur); they have no scientific explanation; and they do not even have a scientific reason that think that the cycles should exist.

The AGW-Denier political agenda is based on the belief that you are too stupid to know the difference between science and mythology. It is up to you to think for yourself and prove them wrong.

Not a myth, ask any geologist. The Earth has gone through many climate changes. If you are wondering if we are currently experiencing a climate change then just look at Greenland and the ice caps. They are vanishing before our eyes; and if it's not climate change then what is it?

It is not a myth, but grossly exaggerated by emitting CO2 we have warmed the planet slightly but because of the limits of CO2 as a greenhouse gas not much more warming is possible, most of the warming we have experienced is natural and came from extreme sunspot cycles (Modern Maximum) the sun is starting a cooling phase now.

It is real. The overwhelming scientific consensus is that it is very real. Islands that seem to be sinking due to the rising of ocean levels, glaciers melting around the world, the north polar ice cap melting earlier and to a greater extent, tornadoes happening earlier and more frequently are just some of the indications that this is happening. The only real reason there is any real doubt is because several corporations who don't want their profits interfered with use some doctored data to say otherwise and are promoting it even now so that they won't have to spend a lot more money finding other ways to make their profits. Amoral corporations are nothing more than money making machines whose soul purpose is to do just that: make as much money as possible. And if lying is cheaper than changing their ways, that's what they do. Even the corporations are starting to admit that it is happening. They are not admitting that our dumping billions of tons of gases into the atmosphere (CO2, methane and thousands of others) every year is responsible. Basically they are buying as much time as possible so they can spend the least amount of money to change while making the most money possible doing things the way they are. All I can suggest you do is learn as much science as you can and read the data available from thousands of independent sources and make up your own mind. Governments and corporations have a bad habit of not telling the whole truth about things, so it's a good idea to learn about how things work and study the facts yourself. Just remember to use a wide variety of data, not just what proves what you want it to.

Sagebrain can't even keep his imbecilic copy-cat fossil fuel industry dupe lies straight:

Quote (on this page): "Climates have always changed."

Quote (lower down, same page): "Climate Change is a myth."

Myth why?

not a myth why?

Sure there is climate change but it's NOT man-made and that's what the debate is about.

Watch these, they explain it all:

The Great Global Warming Swindle



Climates have always changed. Long before the 1900s or any industrial revolution. However, man made climate change, or ACC, is just a PR stunt. It has resulted in a lot of money to exchange hands and a lot of people to give up their freedoms. The leaders of this movement know what they are doing.

Quote by Ottmar Edenhoffer, high level UN-IPCC official: "We redistribute de facto the world's wealth by climate policy...Basically it's a big mistake to discuss climate policy separately from the major themes of globalization...One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. This has almost nothing to do with environmental policy anymore."

It is easy to scare people, especially people who want to feel comfortable with little effort. People rely on governments to protect them and that allows the governments to become great benefactors by using a scare.

Quote by Jim Sibbison, environmental journalist, former public relations official for the Environmental Protection Agency: "We routinely wrote scare stories...Our press reports were more or less true...We were out to whip the public into a frenzy about the environment." And obviously it works. You can see that President Obama just gave the UN $100,000,000,000 for Global Warming or Climate Change. People like you, are confused by this onslaught of propaganda. It seems so credible coming from 'official' government sources. Who wouldn't be afraid?

Joseph Goebbel,

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

Goebbels was a propaganda minister for Hitler, so let the reader notice the effectiveness of the lie. It is sobering, to note how masses of people could be misled and abused due to the lie.

Quote by Christine Stewart, former Canadian Environment Minister: “No matter if the science is all phoney, there are collateral environmental benefits.... climate change [provides] the greatest chance to bring about justice and equality in the world.”

Quote by Timoth Wirth, U.S./UN functionary, former elected Democrat Senator: “We’ve got to ride the global-warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing in terms of economic policy and environmental policy.”

The word 'policy' has its roots in the word political. So even the advocates of ACC or AGW admit that it is a POLITICAL movement, not a scientific one. To prove that point, notice that all the proponents of AGW or ACC, affectionately called greenies on this site, have only political solutions to a seemingly scientific problem. This is the real telling mark.

Quote by Club of Rome: "In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill....All these dangers are caused by human intervention....and thus the “real enemy, then, is humanity itself....believe humanity requires a common motivation, namely a common adversary in order to realize world government. It does not matter if this common enemy is “a real one or….one invented for the purpose."

The advocates for global warming or climate change, in their private meetings, admit to themselves that there goal is to control people with the lie.

So scientifically, Climate Change is unproven. Yet, politically it is alive and well, thanks to the lies of many people on this site, greedy government officials and a select few rogue scientist who have no morals.

Quote by Chris Folland of UK Meteorological Office: “The data don't matter. We're not basing our recommendations [for reductions in carbon dioxide emissions] upon the data. We're basing them upon the climate models.”

Quote by David Frame, climate modeler, Oxford University: “Rather than seeing models as describing literal truth, we ought to see them as convenient fictions which try to provide something useful.”

Science fiction belongs only in the library, not in our lives. Climate Change is a myth.

sea levels rise every year,which can only come from melting ice

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