I suspect you are assuming that the Lima conference was about fixing the climate?
Rest assured, the movers and shakers are gradually making progress but the climate is just an excuse. Redistributing the world's wealth is a main priority. The major players need to be at the talks to ensure that they they can be part of this redistribution path so as to be in a position to cream off some of the money for their "expenses" and salaries
Here is but one example of what a concerned observer found in one small section of a document outlining the aspirations of the climate leadership in Cancun:
"n addition to multiple new bureaucracies in every one of the 193 states parties to the Convention, there will be an Adaptation Framework Body, a Least Developed Countries’ Adaptation Planning Body, an Adaptation Committee, Regional Network Centers, an International Center to Enhance Adaptation Research, National Adaptation Institutions, a Body to Clarify Assumptins and Conditions in National Greenhouse-Gas Emission Reductions Pledges, a Negotiating Body for an Overall Level of Ambition for Aggregate Emission Reductions and Individual Targets, an Office to Revise Guidelines for National Communications, a Multilateral Communications Process Office, a Body for the Process to Develop Modalities and Guidelines for the Compliance Process, a Registry of Nationally Appropriate Mitigation Actions by Developed Countries, a Body to Supervise the Process for Understanding Diversity of Mitigation Actions Submitted and Support Needed, a Body to Develop Modalities for the Registry of Nationally Appropriate Mitigation Actions, an Office of International Consultation and Analysis; an Office to Conduct a Work Program for Development of Various Modalities and Guidelines; a network of Developing Countries’ National Forest Strategy Action Plan Offices; a network of National Forest Reference Emission Level And/Or Forest Reference Level Bodies; a network of National Forest Monitoring Systems; an Office of the Work Program on Agriculture to Enhance the Implementation of Article 4, Paragraph 1(c) of the Convention Taking Into Account Paragraph 31; one or more Mechanisms to Establish a Market-Based Approach to Enhance the Cost-Effectiveness Of And To Promote Mitigation Actions; a Forum on the Impact of the Implementation of Response Measures; a Work Program Office to Address the Impact of the Implementation of Response Measures; a Body to Review the Needs of Developing Countries for Financial Resources to Address Climate Change and Identify Options for Mobilization of Those Resources; a Fund in Addition to the Copenhagen Green Fund; an Interim Secretariat for the Design Phase of the New Fund; a New Body to Assist the Conference of the Parties in Exercising its Functions with respect to the Financial Mechanism; a Body to Launch a Process to Further Define the Roles and Functions of the New Body to Assist the Conference of the Parties in Exercising its Functions with respect to the Financial Mechanism; a Technology Executive Committee; a Climate Technology Center and Network; a Network of National, Regional, Sectoral and International Technology Centers, Networks, Organization and Initiatives; Twinning Centers for Promotion of North-South, South-South and Triangular Partnerships with a View to Encouraging Co-operative Research and Development; an Expert Workshop on the Operational Modalities of the Technology Mechanism; an International Insurance Facility; a Work Program Body for Policy Approaches and Positive Incentives on Issues Relating to Reducing Emissions from Deforestation and Forest Degradation in Developing Countries; a Body to Implement a Work Program on the Impact of the Implementation of Response Measures; and a Body to Develop Modalities for the Operationalization of the Work Program on the Impact of the Implementation of Response Measures."
Did anyone spot anything to do with climate in there?
In the course of human history, negotiation and diplomacy have always been a more sane alternative to war. Whether one considers climate change itself a major issue or not, it is a huge political issue with severe geopolitical and economic implications that could ultimately lead to armed confrontation for any number of reasons...perhaps the most obvious being regional conflicts for resources that larger and more developed nations get dragged into by either military or humanitarian intervention. Therefore, even if these conferences are not as fruitful as some would like, they are preferable to the potential alternatives. It seems self evident therefore, that the scenario Einstein commented on is not relevant to climate change conferences or politics. A more relevant quote might be "Peace in our time," which reminds us how fraught with risk the minefield of international affairs is.
No. It is a sign of Greed. No matter how unsuccessful these conferences have been over the years, none of the attendees are going to give up a free vacation.....jetting to a luxury location, where they can eat and drink the best.....at the expense of Taxpayers, of course.
Not at all, they need to put on a show for the public. They also need to pay poor countries to sign on to their agreements. The poor countries make a show of they are going to walk, knowing they will be paid by the stupid negotiators to stay. The negotiators will water down the agreement just to be able to claim they agreed to something. Only now the activists have kind of figured out what is going on.
It's like a committee that agrees that the toilets should be cleaned but no one actually wants to pick up a brush and tackle the mess.
Well it is not surprising, all these countries have their own agendas and interests.
Einstein once said that the hallmark of insanity is trying the same thing again and again hoping for another result.
